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Asi da gusto leer el foro, debatiendo con respeto y coherencia. Me encanta aprender y disfrutar de esta manera.
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Con esta lista.....yo pensé que era concurso de camisetas mojadas en un HOOTERS!....Luigi escribió:Como siempre para seguir respetando el buen gusto, quien y porque. En mi caso obviando por lógica a los pesos pesados, que están en una división vedada de los cambios divisionales que permiten acceder a otras coronas, y a diferencia de los demás, un peso estable que poco entiende de deshidrataciones y etc. Ellos merecen un ranking a parte, sino de que forma se les explica a los Klitschko que no son los mejores con una campaña tan solida.
1- Floyd Mayweather Jr
Prácticamente el único que no precisa una explicación, simplemente el mejor. El atleta mas regular de nuestra era, un invicto que compromiso tras compromiso supera brillantemente a sus adversarios, y a estas alturas un histórico en actividad.
2-Timothy Bradley
Hace mucho top-ten, novedad en una posición tan encumbrada. Su regularidad, títulos mundiales en dos categorías como superligero y welter. Sus últimos triunfos contra Pacquiao y Marquez, y su record invicto, lo ponen como un escolta ideal de Mayweather.
3-Andre Ward
Otro de los imbatidos, quien supo enfrentar a lo mejor y siempre salir victorioso con enorme suficiencia. Si los demás top supieron abrirse camino entre buenos boxeadores, lo de Ward es fantástico porque en cada cita batió a la elite de su peso sin excepción. Un boxeador magistral con un record perfecto.
4-Bernard Hopkins
El hombre record, el insecable verdugo. Campeón a una edad imposible, casi 50 años y sigue derrotando a los mas jóvenes. Sin duda el mejor estratega de la actualidad y uno de los mejores de la historia, porque su inteligencia y disciplina monástica lo sostienen en lo máximo hace mas de una veintena. Un legado inabarcable
5-Sergio “maravilla” Martinez
Desde que gano su primer titulo mundial en superwelter, Martinez simplemente no paro de ganarle a lo mejor, y a cada referente. Sin contar el traspié contra Williams, que muchos consideramos una decisión injusta, maravilla lleva un periodo de imbatibilidad demasiado longevo con casi 40 años, y al tope de su división
6-Juan Manuel Marquez
Definitivamente cayo de la ilustre posición numero tres que le diera en el ultimo ranking. Su derrota contra Bradley, mas el ascenso de este, el asalto de Ward, y la regularidad de Martinez, sacan de los cinco primeros a este boxeador histórico que esta al borde del retiro.
7-Chris John
Es feo empezar una explicación diciendo “les guste o no”, porque se obvia el potencial del deportista, pero les guste o no John hace mejor lo que otros con facilidades al estilo Chavez Jr no pueden; una campaña signada por títulos mundiales y victorias.
8-Carl Froch
Este británico poco vistoso recordado por su robo contra Dirrel, y la sorpresiva victoria ante Taylor, parecía haber entrado en un bache luego de la derrota contra Ward, pero resurgió noqueando contra todo pronóstico a Bute, hecho que definitivamente restauro su posición, y hoy le permite estar en un top-ten.
9-Guillermo Rigondeaux
Si premiáramos por una cuestión de virtuosismo únicamente, Rigondeaux no puede bajar de un top-5, pero como su historial en el profesionalismo es joven, puedo darle un merecido noveno puesto gracias a su record perfecto, ascención rápida a la corona, y la lección de boxeo que le dio a Donaire.
10-Yurirokis Gamboa
Esta plaza fue la mas difícil, porque están Uchiyama, Gonzalez, Shamanaka, Mikey Garcia, Broner, y otros campeones invictos de igual trayectoria. Simplemente me quedo con Gamboa por una cuestión de brillantez boxística.
Pura Nena que abraza......y que baila, como en las cantinas de MEXICO LINDO Y QUERIDO!!!.....Exceptuando a JMM y FROCH!
En FIN.....
El boxeo cada vez decepciona más.....
Afortunadamente el Pitbull SIberiano ayer.....demostró lo que es ser un peleador de PUÑOS!.....
Me cae re-bien el Siberiano....
En cuanto a los 10 del top ten.....la verdad....hay mucha nena ahí!...
Mi top 10 de Boxeadores que si me gusta ver son estos!
1.-PACMAN
2.-GOlovkin
3.-Yamanaka
4.-Gallito Estrada
5.-BAM BAM Rios
6.-Leo Sta. Cruz
7.-Gallito Orocuta
8.-El Ruso de los Semi-Pesados que viene invicto.....tmb. es perro, pero no recuerdo su nombre de momento.
9.-Mike ALvarado
10.-Adrien Borner
Estos si te desquitan cada segundo en su accionar arriba del RING!
Son DIVERTIDOS y muy entretenidos.......
AH Raza!
Saludos,
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Solo le falto el argentino Matthysse compadre. De todos los demas que menciono estoy al 1000% de acuerdo. Esa si es un buen Top-ten de pugilistas y no bailarinas de cabaret.salvela escribió: Con esta lista.....yo pensé que era concurso de camisetas mojadas en un HOOTERS!....
Pura Nena que abraza......y que baila, como en las cantinas de MEXICO LINDO Y QUERIDO!!!.....Exceptuando a JMM y FROCH!
En FIN.....
El boxeo cada vez decepciona más.....
Afortunadamente el Pitbull SIberiano ayer.....demostró lo que es ser un peleador de PUÑOS!.....
Me cae re-bien el Siberiano....
En cuanto a los 10 del top ten.....la verdad....hay mucha nena ahí!...
Mi top 10 de Boxeadores que si me gusta ver son estos!
1.-PACMAN
2.-GOlovkin
3.-Yamanaka
4.-Gallito Estrada
5.-BAM BAM Rios
6.-Leo Sta. Cruz
7.-Gallito Orocuta
8.-El Ruso de los Semi-Pesados que viene invicto.....tmb. es perro, pero no recuerdo su nombre de momento.
9.-Mike ALvarado
10.-Adrien Borner
Estos si te desquitan cada segundo en su accionar arriba del RING!
Son DIVERTIDOS y muy entretenidos.......
AH Raza!
Saludos,
saludos compadre.
Atte. El que sabe identificar al que conoce de aguacates!
Toooiinng!
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Pues concuerdo con muchos de los que luigi puso en su lista.
Ahora venir a decir q porque a mi me gustan otros es por ley q esos son mejores es una falacia.
Si bailan, si son estilistas, si corren es deber de su rival superarlo y ganar bajo su propio estilo.
O acaso el boxeo no es de imponer tu estilo?
Ahora venir a decir q porque a mi me gustan otros es por ley q esos son mejores es una falacia.
Si bailan, si son estilistas, si corren es deber de su rival superarlo y ganar bajo su propio estilo.
O acaso el boxeo no es de imponer tu estilo?
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Lastima que ninguno de los posteados por ti este al tope del boxeo, ¿no Salvela?. Estoy seguro que ningún periodista, ni hablar expertos, coincidiría contigo.Saludos
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Menos mal que releí y vi que pusiste ese top ten de boxeadores que te gustan porque pensé que habías señalado a Orocuta como un lxl jajaa
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jajajajajajjaajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja.....Orangutan es un bultaso y ete compa lo traia por la nubes,...Nicolino escribió:Menos mal que releí y vi que pusiste ese top ten de boxeadores que te gustan porque pensé que habías señalado a Orocuta como un lxl jajaa
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1.-PACMAN
2.-GOlovkin
3.-Yamanaka
4.-Gallito Estrada
5.-BAM BAM Rios
6.-Leo Sta. Cruz
7.-Gallito Orocuta
8.-El Ruso de los Semi-Pesados que viene invicto.....tmb. es perro, pero no recuerdo su nombre de momento.
9.-Mike ALvarado
10.-Adrien Borner
te falto el Jr, la pecosa,veneno Rubio,el chiguagua angulo,omar chavez,la zorrita,terrazas,y la Arroyadora Banda el limon...jajaja Me MEO!
2.-GOlovkin
3.-Yamanaka
4.-Gallito Estrada
5.-BAM BAM Rios
6.-Leo Sta. Cruz
7.-Gallito Orocuta
8.-El Ruso de los Semi-Pesados que viene invicto.....tmb. es perro, pero no recuerdo su nombre de momento.
9.-Mike ALvarado
10.-Adrien Borner
te falto el Jr, la pecosa,veneno Rubio,el chiguagua angulo,omar chavez,la zorrita,terrazas,y la Arroyadora Banda el limon...jajaja
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Si compa.....Bam Bam Rios escribió:
Solo le falto el argentino Matthysse compadre. De todos los demas que menciono estoy al 1000% de acuerdo. Esa si es un buen Top-ten de pugilistas y no bailarinas de cabaret.
saludos compadre.
Atte. El que sabe identificar al que conoce de aguacates!
Toooiinng!
Lucas y Danny García me faltaron.....esos tmb. desquitan el tiempo invertido en verlos.
El top ten actual de Boxeo.....se da un tiro con el top ten de miss universo....nomás que en versión CanGleja!
tristemente!!!
Saludos BAM!
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BoxingScene Pound for Pound Top Ten
By Cliff Rold
1) Floyd Mayweather (45-0, 26 KO)
Age: 36
Current Title: Lineal World Welterweight (2010-Present, 2 Defenses); WBC Welterweight (2011-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA “Super” Light Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense); Ring Welterweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Additional Lineal World Championships: World Jr. Lightweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); World Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); World Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Featherweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); Ring/WBC Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Lightweight (2005); IBF Welterweight (2006); Ring/WBC Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense); WBC Super Welterweight (2007)
Record in Title Fights: 23-0, 10 KO (Overall, including lineal vs. Shane Mosley); 19-0, 9 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Saul Alvarez (MD12), Robert Guerrero (UD12), Miguel Cotto (UD12), Victor Ortiz (KO4), Shane Mosley (UD12)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: And now, a vacation. The cash and fistic king of boxing is finished with what likely will be, even adjusted for inflation, the richest fight in history and history is again his. In defeating “Canelo” Alvarez, he laid claim to honors as the outright king of the 154 lb. class, tying Manny Pacquiao as only the second man ever to win four lineal world titles. For a fighter often accused wrongly of avoiding challenges, he has defeated three men (Alvarez, Cotto, and Mosley) who were rated by many as their division’s leaders going in. In the fight before that, he tuned up the then reigning lineal Lightweight king Juan Manuel Marquez. Over that span of six fights following a brief ‘retirement,’ Mayweather has lost less rounds than he has had fights. In some fifteen years of titles fights, only one man ever came close to beating him and the first Jose Luis Castillo fight was over a decade ago. Soon, Mayweather may have the record for most title fights without a loss. All hail the king.
2) Andre Ward (26-0, 14 KO)
Age: 29
Current Titles: WBA Super Middleweight (2009-Present, 5 Defenses); Lineal World/TBRB/Ring/ Super Middleweight (2011-Present, 1 Defense)
Record in Title Fights: 6-0, 1 KO
Last Five Opponents: Chad Dawson (TKO10), Carl Froch (UD12), Arthur Abraham (UD12), Sakio Bika (UD12), Allan Green (UD12)
Next Opponent: November 16, 2013 vs. Edwin Rodriguez (24-0, 16 KO)
The Take: Ward lags behind some of the men behind him in terms of career accomplishments. After lopsided wins of increasing dominance over the best Super Middleweight (Carl Froch) and Light Heavyweight (Chad Dawson) in the game, he was closing the gap as quickly as he could. An injury to his planned foe derailed a planned defense against Kelly Pavlik and then a shoulder injury of his own kept Ward on the shelf some more. The Super Middleweight king, after much consternation, finally has his comeback foe. Rodriguez has earned his shot and it’s not a bad match, though Ward will be favored. In the absence of a big fight, a champion who wishes to rule a single class can only beat the top ten contenders around him. Rodriguez fits the bill. Could we see a bigger money rematch with Froch next year?
3) Guillermo Rigondeaux (12-0, 8 KO)
Age: 33
Current Title: Lineal//TBRB/Ring World Jr. Featherweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA Super Bantamweight (2012-Present, 3 Defenses); WBO Super Bantamweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 4-0, 2 KO (6-0, 3 KO including interim title fights); 1-0 (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Nonito Donaire (UD12), Roberto Marroquin (UD12), Teon Kennedy (TKO5), Rico Ramos (KO6), Willie Casey (TKO1)
Next Opponent: December 7, 2013 vs. Joseph Agbeko (29-4, 22 KO)
The Take: There will be some who say ‘too soon.’ Sometimes, it’s better to trust the eye test. It didn’t look too soon in April 2013 when Rigondeuax defused the talented Nonito Donaire for most of twelve rounds. The amateur pedigree is now a firmly established professionalism and while his already advancing age may not mean we get a long look at the Cuban in the paid ranks, its clear he’s everything advertised since the day he turned pro. Rigondeuax presents a package of balance, defense, and punching accuracy that will be tough for anyone to solve in the foreseeable future. His performance against Donaire wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but accusations of running were comical. He stood in front of Donaire for long tracts of the fight and outfought Donaire when he had too. There are three fighters in the sport who would be strongly favored over anyone in their class and the classes one below and above them. The other two occupy the top two slots above. After much haggling about a return to TV, Rigondeuax is set for a fight that could be one of his most entertaining. Agbeko always comes to fight and has been one of the best Bantamweights of recent times.
4) Timothy Bradley (31-0, 12 KO)
Age: 30
Current Title: WBO Welterweight (2012-Present, 2 Defenses)
Career Titles: WBC Light Welterweight (2008-09, 2 Defenses; 2011); WBO Light Welterweight (2009-2012, 4 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0, 1 KO, 1 NO Contest
Last Five Opponents: Juan Manuel Marquez (SD12), Ruslan Provodnikov (UD12), Manny Pacquiao (SD12), Joel Casamayor (TKO8), Devon Alexander (Tech. Dec. 10)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: After making a case as the best Jr. Welterweight in the world, Bradley skipped over a chance at outright confirmation of the claim that could have come then with a fight against Amir Khan. He had bigger designs. Aiming his sights on Pacquiao, Bradley won a belt in his second weight class under a cloud of controversy. What he’s done in the two fights since have done more to define him than anything he’d done before. In surviving a war with Provodnikov, he showed the grit, heart, and will of a fighter. In outboxing Marquez, he showed the skill of a champion in his prime. Bradley could have returned to the top ten a slot higher but the Pacquiao result is still out there. While most didn’t like the verdict, he was hardly embarrassed and competed with the Filipino icon. A reckoning between the two may be in order in 2014 if Pacquiao can win his comeback bout in November. With that rematch, Bradley would have the chance to push away any remaining dark clouds and open up all the sunny skies his hard work and professional class can bring him.
5) Juan Manuel Marquez (55-7-1, 40 KO)
Age: 40
Current Title: WBO Jr. Welterweight (2012-Present, 0 Defenses)
Lineal World Championships: World Lightweight Champion (2008-12, 3 Defenses)
Additional Titles: IBF Featherweight (2003-05, 4 Defenses); WBA Featherweight (2003-05, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Featherweight (2007-08, 1 Defense); WBO/WBA Lightweight (2009-Present, 2 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 10-5-1, 4 KO (13-5-1, 6 KO including interim title fights) (Overall); 4-1-1, 3 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Timothy Bradley (L12), Sergiy Fedchenko (UD12), Manny Pacquiao (L12, KO6), Likar Ramos (KO1), Michael Katsidis (TKO9)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: An attempt at history was denied. Marquez attempted to become the first Mexican national to win five belts in five weight classes and fell just short in a fascinating, if not always scintillating, chess match with Timothy Bradley. It was the sort of fight that could have been scored a number of ways but the marked face of Marquez told how hard a night it had been. At 40, Marquez isn’t likely to continue for much longer (though who knows in this ageless era). Despite the sting of defeat, he continues on as the man who screwed Manny Pacquiao into the floor one bout prior and he will have options once things shake out in the Ruslan Provodnikov-Mike Alvarado and Pacquiao-Brandon Rios battles. Marquez has always struggled with men who can back off and force him to lead. He’s handled just about anyone else and remains one of the genuine legends of Mexican boxing. Whenever he says he’s done, the five-year Canastota clock begins clicking to the inevitable.
6) Carl Froch (31-2, 22 KO)
Age: 36
Current Titles: IBF Super Middleweight (2012-Present, 2 Defenses); WBA “Super” Super Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Middleweight (2008-10, 2 Defenses; 10-11, 1 Defense)
Record in Title Fights: 8-2, 3 KO
Last Five Opponents: Mikkel Kessler (UD12), Yusaf Mack (KO3), Lucian Bute (TKO5), Andre Ward (L12), Glen Johnson (MD12)
Next Opponent: November 23, 2013 vs. George Groves (19-0, 15 KO)
The Take: He doesn’t do a lot of things perfect but he and wins anyways. After a rousing rematch victory over Mikkel Kessler, only Andre Ward has one up on Froch. A rematch may give Froch a chance to reverse that outcome as well, though most would see his chances as long. Regardless, Froch deserves all the credit in the world for the way he continually challenges himself. In his last ten fights, only Yusaf Mack would count as a stay busy affair. Even bad asses need a breather. He bounced right back, kept on winning, and now has a competitive mandate for a rematch with Ward. If it doesn’t happen, a third war with Kessler would be a welcome substitute. In the meantime, it’s just more of the same as far as tough fights as Froch prepares for a Groves who looks like a real threat. Froch is one of boxing’s gems, a genuine take on all comers warrior. We’ll miss him when he’s gone.
7) Sergio Martinez (51-2-2, 28 KO)
Age: 38
Current Titles: Lineal World Middleweight Champion (2010-Present, 6 Defenses); WBC Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Welterweight (2009-10); WBC Middleweight (2010-11, 1 Defense); WBO Middleweight (2010)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0-1, 6 KO including interim title fights (Overall); 7-0, 4 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Martin Murray (UD12), Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (UD12), Matthew Macklin (RTD11), Darren Barker (KO11), Sergiy Dzinziruk (TKO8)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: Talk about making it interesting. Martinez has danced on the edge in each of his last two fights. He came of the floor officially in round eight to salvage a win over the rugged Murray in a raucous homecoming. Martinez was boxing the brakes off of Chavez for eleven rounds before being dropped hard and showing a champion’s will to survive and finish the final round firing back. Middleweight is showing new signs of life with Peter Quillin knocking guys around and Gennady Golovkin carrying two bombs in his gloves. But we continue to be reminded of how subtly good this reign has been; case in point, Darren Barker is now a titlist in class. Still, Quillin and Golovkin could be serious threats to a champion who looked very much a 38-year old man in spots in his last outing. Miguel Cotto, a former titlist in the three classes below him, could also prove a threat and one that pay better than the established Middleweights around him. There is speculation of a showdown. Martinez remains rated for now, but the end may be near.
8) Manny Pacquiao (54-5-2, 38 KO)
Age: 34
Current Title: None
Lineal World Championships: World Flyweight (1998-99, 1 Defense); World Featherweight (2003-2005, 2 Defenses); World Jr. Lightweight (2008); World Junior Welterweight (2009-10)
Additional Titles: WBC Flyweight (1998-99, 1 Defense); IBF Jr. Featherweight (2001-03, 4 Defenses); WBC Super Featherweight (2008); WBC Lightweight (2008); Ring Jr. Welterweight (2009-10); WBO Welterweight (2009-12, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Welterweight lbs. (2010-11)
Record in Title Fights: 16-2-2, 11 KO, 1 KOBY (Overall); 6-1-1, 5 KO, 1 KOBY (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Juan Manuel Marquez (MD12, KO by 6), Timothy Bradley (L12), Shane Mosley (UD12), Antonio Margarito (UD12), Joshua Clottey (UD12)
Next Opponent: November 23, 2013 vs. Brandon Rios (31-1-1, 23 KO)
The Take: Despite suffering his first knockdown since 2003 in the third round, Manny Pacquiao appeared to have finally found some of the technical answers he needed to solve Juan Manuel Marquez. His left was quick, his right was sudden, and both were landing. Then Marquez put him to sleep. It was an epic finish to an epic fight. Was it the beginning of the end of an epic career? At 34, Pacquiao has a steep mountain to climb and plenty of Internet memes to ignore. It might not be as bad as those memes look. He appeared to do well more than enough to beat the undefeated Timothy Bradley and eked one out in his third fight with Marquez before that. The sport is moving on in his absence and he slips as others rack up wins. He’s picked a high-risk foe for his comeback later in the year. Rios is younger, can punch, and has nothing to lose in the biggest opportunity of his life.
9) Roman Gonzalez (35-0, 29 KO)
Age: 26
Current Titles: WBA Light Flyweight (2010-Present, 5 Defenses)
Additional Titles: WBA Minimumweight (2008-10, 3 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0, 5 KO (10-0, 6 KO including interim title fights)
Last Five Opponents: Francisco Rodriguez (TKO7), Ronald Barrera (TKO5), Juan Francisco Estrada (UD12), Stiven Monterrosa (TKO3), Ramon Garcia (KO4)
Next Opponent: November 10, 2013 vs. Oscar Blanquet (32-6-1, 23 KO)
The Take: It can be a mistake to use outside results as an aid in appreciating a fighter, but this was one of those occasions. When Juan Francisco Estrada defeated Brian Viloria at Flyweight earlier this year, he proved that his performance against Roman Gonzalez last year was no fluke. In doing so, he provided even more evidence that Gonzalez may be the most special fighter in the lowest weight classes since the heyday of Michael Carbajal and Ricardo Lopez. Since walking through Yutaka Niida for a title at 105, the only stoppage loss Niida ever suffered, Gonzalez has had few fights that have even been close. He can box and punch and, at 25, may only be hitting his stride. With a possible rematch against Estrada, a potential showdown with Kazuto Ioka, and even a still possible fight with Viloria someday, Gonzalez has the talent around him to rise even higher.
10) Danny Garcia (27-0, 16 KO)
Age: 25
Current Titles: Lineal/TBRB Jr. Welterweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); Ring/WBA “Super” Jr. Welterweight (2012-Present, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Lightweight (2012-Present, 4 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 5-0, 2 KO
Last Five Opponents: Lucas Matthysse (UD12), Zab Judah (UD12), Erik Morales (UD12, KO4), Amir Khan (TKO4), Kendall Holt (SD12)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: Jr. Welterweight has been one of boxing’s deepest and best classes for a few years now. It’s champion for the moment is crystal clear. Danny Garcia has shown considerable improvement since his close win over Holt and now has toppled one of the most feared men in the sport. Matthysse landed some bombs early but, like he did against Khan, Garcia stuck to his game plan and found solutions. His boxing ability, stiff left hook, and laudable mental focus and toughness are the stuff of a special fighter. The Matthysse fight was close but Garcia earned the win and now looks to bigger things. Could he be next on the Mayweather lottery wheel? If so, he’s done as much to earn it as anyone and deserves the rewards of his labors.
Five More Who Could Easily Be Here: Nonito Donaire, Juan Francisco Estrada, Wladimir Klitschko, Leo Santa Cruz, Takashi Uchiyama
Five for the Future: Adrien Broner, Gennady Golovkin, Kazuto Ioka, Peter Quillin, Adonis Stevenson
As always, feel free to agree…and disagree. This list is for entertainment purposes only and based purely on imagination, hypotheticals, and conjecture just like every other pound for pound list ever written. Neither it nor any other such list made up of such illusory ingredients should be used to forward corporate agendas of any kind.
That doesn’t make it any less fun to argue about.
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Cliff Rold is the Managing Editor of BoxingScene, a founding member of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and a member of the Boxing Writers Association of America. He can be reached at roldboxing@hotmail.com
By Cliff Rold
1) Floyd Mayweather (45-0, 26 KO)
Age: 36
Current Title: Lineal World Welterweight (2010-Present, 2 Defenses); WBC Welterweight (2011-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA “Super” Light Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense); Ring Welterweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Additional Lineal World Championships: World Jr. Lightweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); World Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); World Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Featherweight (1998-2002, 8 Defenses); Ring/WBC Lightweight (2002-2004, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Lightweight (2005); IBF Welterweight (2006); Ring/WBC Welterweight (2006-08, 1 Defense); WBC Super Welterweight (2007)
Record in Title Fights: 23-0, 10 KO (Overall, including lineal vs. Shane Mosley); 19-0, 9 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Saul Alvarez (MD12), Robert Guerrero (UD12), Miguel Cotto (UD12), Victor Ortiz (KO4), Shane Mosley (UD12)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: And now, a vacation. The cash and fistic king of boxing is finished with what likely will be, even adjusted for inflation, the richest fight in history and history is again his. In defeating “Canelo” Alvarez, he laid claim to honors as the outright king of the 154 lb. class, tying Manny Pacquiao as only the second man ever to win four lineal world titles. For a fighter often accused wrongly of avoiding challenges, he has defeated three men (Alvarez, Cotto, and Mosley) who were rated by many as their division’s leaders going in. In the fight before that, he tuned up the then reigning lineal Lightweight king Juan Manuel Marquez. Over that span of six fights following a brief ‘retirement,’ Mayweather has lost less rounds than he has had fights. In some fifteen years of titles fights, only one man ever came close to beating him and the first Jose Luis Castillo fight was over a decade ago. Soon, Mayweather may have the record for most title fights without a loss. All hail the king.
2) Andre Ward (26-0, 14 KO)
Age: 29
Current Titles: WBA Super Middleweight (2009-Present, 5 Defenses); Lineal World/TBRB/Ring/ Super Middleweight (2011-Present, 1 Defense)
Record in Title Fights: 6-0, 1 KO
Last Five Opponents: Chad Dawson (TKO10), Carl Froch (UD12), Arthur Abraham (UD12), Sakio Bika (UD12), Allan Green (UD12)
Next Opponent: November 16, 2013 vs. Edwin Rodriguez (24-0, 16 KO)
The Take: Ward lags behind some of the men behind him in terms of career accomplishments. After lopsided wins of increasing dominance over the best Super Middleweight (Carl Froch) and Light Heavyweight (Chad Dawson) in the game, he was closing the gap as quickly as he could. An injury to his planned foe derailed a planned defense against Kelly Pavlik and then a shoulder injury of his own kept Ward on the shelf some more. The Super Middleweight king, after much consternation, finally has his comeback foe. Rodriguez has earned his shot and it’s not a bad match, though Ward will be favored. In the absence of a big fight, a champion who wishes to rule a single class can only beat the top ten contenders around him. Rodriguez fits the bill. Could we see a bigger money rematch with Froch next year?
3) Guillermo Rigondeaux (12-0, 8 KO)
Age: 33
Current Title: Lineal//TBRB/Ring World Jr. Featherweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); WBA Super Bantamweight (2012-Present, 3 Defenses); WBO Super Bantamweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 4-0, 2 KO (6-0, 3 KO including interim title fights); 1-0 (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Nonito Donaire (UD12), Roberto Marroquin (UD12), Teon Kennedy (TKO5), Rico Ramos (KO6), Willie Casey (TKO1)
Next Opponent: December 7, 2013 vs. Joseph Agbeko (29-4, 22 KO)
The Take: There will be some who say ‘too soon.’ Sometimes, it’s better to trust the eye test. It didn’t look too soon in April 2013 when Rigondeuax defused the talented Nonito Donaire for most of twelve rounds. The amateur pedigree is now a firmly established professionalism and while his already advancing age may not mean we get a long look at the Cuban in the paid ranks, its clear he’s everything advertised since the day he turned pro. Rigondeuax presents a package of balance, defense, and punching accuracy that will be tough for anyone to solve in the foreseeable future. His performance against Donaire wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but accusations of running were comical. He stood in front of Donaire for long tracts of the fight and outfought Donaire when he had too. There are three fighters in the sport who would be strongly favored over anyone in their class and the classes one below and above them. The other two occupy the top two slots above. After much haggling about a return to TV, Rigondeuax is set for a fight that could be one of his most entertaining. Agbeko always comes to fight and has been one of the best Bantamweights of recent times.
4) Timothy Bradley (31-0, 12 KO)
Age: 30
Current Title: WBO Welterweight (2012-Present, 2 Defenses)
Career Titles: WBC Light Welterweight (2008-09, 2 Defenses; 2011); WBO Light Welterweight (2009-2012, 4 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0, 1 KO, 1 NO Contest
Last Five Opponents: Juan Manuel Marquez (SD12), Ruslan Provodnikov (UD12), Manny Pacquiao (SD12), Joel Casamayor (TKO8), Devon Alexander (Tech. Dec. 10)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: After making a case as the best Jr. Welterweight in the world, Bradley skipped over a chance at outright confirmation of the claim that could have come then with a fight against Amir Khan. He had bigger designs. Aiming his sights on Pacquiao, Bradley won a belt in his second weight class under a cloud of controversy. What he’s done in the two fights since have done more to define him than anything he’d done before. In surviving a war with Provodnikov, he showed the grit, heart, and will of a fighter. In outboxing Marquez, he showed the skill of a champion in his prime. Bradley could have returned to the top ten a slot higher but the Pacquiao result is still out there. While most didn’t like the verdict, he was hardly embarrassed and competed with the Filipino icon. A reckoning between the two may be in order in 2014 if Pacquiao can win his comeback bout in November. With that rematch, Bradley would have the chance to push away any remaining dark clouds and open up all the sunny skies his hard work and professional class can bring him.
5) Juan Manuel Marquez (55-7-1, 40 KO)
Age: 40
Current Title: WBO Jr. Welterweight (2012-Present, 0 Defenses)
Lineal World Championships: World Lightweight Champion (2008-12, 3 Defenses)
Additional Titles: IBF Featherweight (2003-05, 4 Defenses); WBA Featherweight (2003-05, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Featherweight (2007-08, 1 Defense); WBO/WBA Lightweight (2009-Present, 2 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 10-5-1, 4 KO (13-5-1, 6 KO including interim title fights) (Overall); 4-1-1, 3 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Timothy Bradley (L12), Sergiy Fedchenko (UD12), Manny Pacquiao (L12, KO6), Likar Ramos (KO1), Michael Katsidis (TKO9)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: An attempt at history was denied. Marquez attempted to become the first Mexican national to win five belts in five weight classes and fell just short in a fascinating, if not always scintillating, chess match with Timothy Bradley. It was the sort of fight that could have been scored a number of ways but the marked face of Marquez told how hard a night it had been. At 40, Marquez isn’t likely to continue for much longer (though who knows in this ageless era). Despite the sting of defeat, he continues on as the man who screwed Manny Pacquiao into the floor one bout prior and he will have options once things shake out in the Ruslan Provodnikov-Mike Alvarado and Pacquiao-Brandon Rios battles. Marquez has always struggled with men who can back off and force him to lead. He’s handled just about anyone else and remains one of the genuine legends of Mexican boxing. Whenever he says he’s done, the five-year Canastota clock begins clicking to the inevitable.
6) Carl Froch (31-2, 22 KO)
Age: 36
Current Titles: IBF Super Middleweight (2012-Present, 2 Defenses); WBA “Super” Super Middleweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Middleweight (2008-10, 2 Defenses; 10-11, 1 Defense)
Record in Title Fights: 8-2, 3 KO
Last Five Opponents: Mikkel Kessler (UD12), Yusaf Mack (KO3), Lucian Bute (TKO5), Andre Ward (L12), Glen Johnson (MD12)
Next Opponent: November 23, 2013 vs. George Groves (19-0, 15 KO)
The Take: He doesn’t do a lot of things perfect but he and wins anyways. After a rousing rematch victory over Mikkel Kessler, only Andre Ward has one up on Froch. A rematch may give Froch a chance to reverse that outcome as well, though most would see his chances as long. Regardless, Froch deserves all the credit in the world for the way he continually challenges himself. In his last ten fights, only Yusaf Mack would count as a stay busy affair. Even bad asses need a breather. He bounced right back, kept on winning, and now has a competitive mandate for a rematch with Ward. If it doesn’t happen, a third war with Kessler would be a welcome substitute. In the meantime, it’s just more of the same as far as tough fights as Froch prepares for a Groves who looks like a real threat. Froch is one of boxing’s gems, a genuine take on all comers warrior. We’ll miss him when he’s gone.
7) Sergio Martinez (51-2-2, 28 KO)
Age: 38
Current Titles: Lineal World Middleweight Champion (2010-Present, 6 Defenses); WBC Middleweight (2012-Present, 1 Defense)
Additional Titles: WBC Super Welterweight (2009-10); WBC Middleweight (2010-11, 1 Defense); WBO Middleweight (2010)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0-1, 6 KO including interim title fights (Overall); 7-0, 4 KO (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Martin Murray (UD12), Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (UD12), Matthew Macklin (RTD11), Darren Barker (KO11), Sergiy Dzinziruk (TKO8)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: Talk about making it interesting. Martinez has danced on the edge in each of his last two fights. He came of the floor officially in round eight to salvage a win over the rugged Murray in a raucous homecoming. Martinez was boxing the brakes off of Chavez for eleven rounds before being dropped hard and showing a champion’s will to survive and finish the final round firing back. Middleweight is showing new signs of life with Peter Quillin knocking guys around and Gennady Golovkin carrying two bombs in his gloves. But we continue to be reminded of how subtly good this reign has been; case in point, Darren Barker is now a titlist in class. Still, Quillin and Golovkin could be serious threats to a champion who looked very much a 38-year old man in spots in his last outing. Miguel Cotto, a former titlist in the three classes below him, could also prove a threat and one that pay better than the established Middleweights around him. There is speculation of a showdown. Martinez remains rated for now, but the end may be near.
8) Manny Pacquiao (54-5-2, 38 KO)
Age: 34
Current Title: None
Lineal World Championships: World Flyweight (1998-99, 1 Defense); World Featherweight (2003-2005, 2 Defenses); World Jr. Lightweight (2008); World Junior Welterweight (2009-10)
Additional Titles: WBC Flyweight (1998-99, 1 Defense); IBF Jr. Featherweight (2001-03, 4 Defenses); WBC Super Featherweight (2008); WBC Lightweight (2008); Ring Jr. Welterweight (2009-10); WBO Welterweight (2009-12, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Welterweight lbs. (2010-11)
Record in Title Fights: 16-2-2, 11 KO, 1 KOBY (Overall); 6-1-1, 5 KO, 1 KOBY (Lineal Only)
Last Five Opponents: Juan Manuel Marquez (MD12, KO by 6), Timothy Bradley (L12), Shane Mosley (UD12), Antonio Margarito (UD12), Joshua Clottey (UD12)
Next Opponent: November 23, 2013 vs. Brandon Rios (31-1-1, 23 KO)
The Take: Despite suffering his first knockdown since 2003 in the third round, Manny Pacquiao appeared to have finally found some of the technical answers he needed to solve Juan Manuel Marquez. His left was quick, his right was sudden, and both were landing. Then Marquez put him to sleep. It was an epic finish to an epic fight. Was it the beginning of the end of an epic career? At 34, Pacquiao has a steep mountain to climb and plenty of Internet memes to ignore. It might not be as bad as those memes look. He appeared to do well more than enough to beat the undefeated Timothy Bradley and eked one out in his third fight with Marquez before that. The sport is moving on in his absence and he slips as others rack up wins. He’s picked a high-risk foe for his comeback later in the year. Rios is younger, can punch, and has nothing to lose in the biggest opportunity of his life.
9) Roman Gonzalez (35-0, 29 KO)
Age: 26
Current Titles: WBA Light Flyweight (2010-Present, 5 Defenses)
Additional Titles: WBA Minimumweight (2008-10, 3 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 9-0, 5 KO (10-0, 6 KO including interim title fights)
Last Five Opponents: Francisco Rodriguez (TKO7), Ronald Barrera (TKO5), Juan Francisco Estrada (UD12), Stiven Monterrosa (TKO3), Ramon Garcia (KO4)
Next Opponent: November 10, 2013 vs. Oscar Blanquet (32-6-1, 23 KO)
The Take: It can be a mistake to use outside results as an aid in appreciating a fighter, but this was one of those occasions. When Juan Francisco Estrada defeated Brian Viloria at Flyweight earlier this year, he proved that his performance against Roman Gonzalez last year was no fluke. In doing so, he provided even more evidence that Gonzalez may be the most special fighter in the lowest weight classes since the heyday of Michael Carbajal and Ricardo Lopez. Since walking through Yutaka Niida for a title at 105, the only stoppage loss Niida ever suffered, Gonzalez has had few fights that have even been close. He can box and punch and, at 25, may only be hitting his stride. With a possible rematch against Estrada, a potential showdown with Kazuto Ioka, and even a still possible fight with Viloria someday, Gonzalez has the talent around him to rise even higher.
10) Danny Garcia (27-0, 16 KO)
Age: 25
Current Titles: Lineal/TBRB Jr. Welterweight (2013-Present, 0 Defenses); Ring/WBA “Super” Jr. Welterweight (2012-Present, 3 Defenses); WBC Super Lightweight (2012-Present, 4 Defenses)
Record in Title Fights: 5-0, 2 KO
Last Five Opponents: Lucas Matthysse (UD12), Zab Judah (UD12), Erik Morales (UD12, KO4), Amir Khan (TKO4), Kendall Holt (SD12)
Next Opponent: TBA
The Take: Jr. Welterweight has been one of boxing’s deepest and best classes for a few years now. It’s champion for the moment is crystal clear. Danny Garcia has shown considerable improvement since his close win over Holt and now has toppled one of the most feared men in the sport. Matthysse landed some bombs early but, like he did against Khan, Garcia stuck to his game plan and found solutions. His boxing ability, stiff left hook, and laudable mental focus and toughness are the stuff of a special fighter. The Matthysse fight was close but Garcia earned the win and now looks to bigger things. Could he be next on the Mayweather lottery wheel? If so, he’s done as much to earn it as anyone and deserves the rewards of his labors.
Five More Who Could Easily Be Here: Nonito Donaire, Juan Francisco Estrada, Wladimir Klitschko, Leo Santa Cruz, Takashi Uchiyama
Five for the Future: Adrien Broner, Gennady Golovkin, Kazuto Ioka, Peter Quillin, Adonis Stevenson
As always, feel free to agree…and disagree. This list is for entertainment purposes only and based purely on imagination, hypotheticals, and conjecture just like every other pound for pound list ever written. Neither it nor any other such list made up of such illusory ingredients should be used to forward corporate agendas of any kind.
That doesn’t make it any less fun to argue about.
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